18 responses

  1. Joe
    August 14, 2008

    While you are correct in saying that tolltag have the cheapest option for casual M50 users – the figures you quote for eflow.ie are not right. The eflow charge is not €3 with a tag – it is €2. The €1 admin fee a month make them more expensive for anyone doing under 5 trips in a month – but they are not 80c dearer per trip.

  2. Tom Doyle
    August 14, 2008

    Hi Joe,

    Thanks for your comments.

    I’m sorry but I don’t agree with you. I’m a casual user of the M50 and at most, I go through the TollBridge at most 10 times a year. So for me, eFlow is MUCH more expensive. I suppose the definition of “casual user” is debatable, but most people I know, don’t have a need to pass through the M50 toll more than 12-15 times a year. In fact, they try to avoid it because of traffic.

    Unfortunately eFlow don’t offer a solution for the casual user, so it’s hard to compare like for like. The easiest way is to work out how much it’s going to cost someone in my situation. And for me, it’s quite clear that TollTag offers an option that is €0.80 cheaper per trip.

    For me to sign up for the basic offering by eFlow, it would cost me €70 in the first 8 months. The ten trips I make, combined with the ridiculous €1 a month (x8) administration fee, would bring me to the minimum of €12 in my account, which triggers an automatic top up of €30. So my 10 trips in year 1 would have cost me €7 a trip.

    With TollTag however, in that same period I will still have €8 in my account that won’t diminish if I never use it again, unlike the eFlow system. I can also top up whenever I like for as little as €10 a go.

    So on paper, eFlow looks cheaper with their €2 toll charge, but in reality for the casual user it’s a waste of time and money.

    By the way, TollTag offer a similar system to eFlow, but at least they know that there is actually a casual market it out there and they are not trying to abuse them, unlike eFlow.

    Tom

  3. Joe
    August 14, 2008

    OK – I agree that for 1 journey a month over 12 months Tolltag do work out 80c cheaper per trip.
    I was just pointing out that the difference is less tha more trips you make and that when you reach 60 trips a year the other options are cheaper (eflow, eazypass and directroute) with the free tags and 1 euro admin fee.

  4. Joe
    August 14, 2008

    Tom – you are wrong about the minimum balance of tolltag – it is also 12 euro and the min top up is 20 euro . (This is the “pay as you toll plus” account ) There is another type of tag account with tolltag with no min topup but you have to buy the tag for 30 euro – so no savings there.

  5. Tom Doyle
    August 14, 2008

    Fair point Joe! And glad you’ve noted it for other people that visit and will be “more” regular users than me! :)

  6. Tom Doyle
    August 14, 2008

    Hi Joe,

    I’m not wrong – I’m talking about the “Pay as you toll” option from TollTag https://bookings.parkmagic.net/tolltag/about.aspx?f=payasyoutoll

    - No Monthly Fees
    - No Minimum Balance
    - No Minimum topup amount

    If you read the article above, you will see that this is the account I am referencing.

    Tom

  7. Joe
    August 14, 2008

    Now that you have made it clearer – what I mentioned earlier about the 30 euro fee for the tag reduces the savings you make with this option. You won’t actually save money for almost 3 years in your scenario of 1 trip a month. The eflow and eazypass tags are free .
    It just highlights the mess the NRA have made by allowing so many different operators to confuse the consumers.

  8. Tom Doyle
    August 14, 2008

    I stand corrected. I wrongly assumed the €30 registration fee included €30 credit.

    However, it will still work out at less than €5 in year one, compared to eFlow’s €7 average.

    Plus – if I continued with eFlow for 3 years, the total I would have had paid would be anywhere between €120 and €190. Compare that to €91.60 for 3 years with TollTag.

    Obviously you will always have credit in your account with eFlow, but I’d personally prefer that money in my pocket and not in someone elses!

    One option not covered is the video registration with eFlow. Details are sketchy, but if you register for the video, it will be €2.50 passing through the toll… should be noted.

  9. Clare
    August 15, 2008

    Hi Tom,
    My mother is also a “casual” user (using your definition!), and it seems to me that the simplest method is video registration. Yes, it will cost €2.50 per journey but with the post pay option, there is no initial or monthly fees, they just take exactly €2.50 out of your chosen debit or credit card at the start of the following month- so you get to keep your money in your pocket for ages!!!
    With no ‘balance’ or ‘minimum top-up’ this seems to me to be the handiest option for people who don’t want TollTag or eFlow or anyone “holding onto” THEIR €40 even if it will be used to credit their account!
    I on the other hand use the M50 up to 8 times a day… so I used to the €1 a month fee as a current tag user!

  10. Tom Doyle
    August 15, 2008

    Yep seems like a good option too. They don’t have much information about it on their website, so I couldn’t really comment on the offering.

    However, it’s not the cheapest option! :)

    Tom

  11. martin
    August 17, 2008

    I’m glad you all made the tolling system very clear!!!

  12. Christopher Phelan
    August 20, 2008

    Glad to read your articles. Is there any organisation involved at a political level to have some of these daft conditions altered?

  13. Alan
    August 20, 2008

    I just think the €1 a month is a bit excessive considering they have your money in advance. Some 120,000 motorists use the toll everyday so I would think that at least 250,000 people will register with one of the options *€30=€7.5million in advance nice bit of interest there. Thats supposing that motorists only use it a few times a year, what a business I want a piece of that cake.

  14. martina
    August 29, 2008

    hi i was just in contact with a very helpful person in eflow and as a casual user of the M50 clare was absolutely right. If you video register you only pay 2.50 per journey and if you pay monthly there are no other charges. my husband uses the M50 every day and as such he tag registered his toll is 2 euro per trip with 1 euro admin cherge per month and he also is paying per month so no money is paid over before you use the toll. i have to say eflow made it seem very simple and straighforward.

  15. olive
    August 29, 2008

    will be travelling 2 moro on m50 totally confused can anyone tell me how you pay for casual tolling.Does it have to be paid in bank or shop if its a shop what shops.

  16. Joe
    August 30, 2008

    I now think that the post pay tag with eflow is probably the best option for the majority of users – no initial fees or top ups- jut pay monthly. They don’t seem to be publicising this option much. This is the only post-pay tag option available.

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