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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thx Ling,

I may have a good deal done with a local Garage + Bank, will have confirmation tomorrow.

Leasing is much more tax efficient, even when allowing for the interest charged, but you must of course be able to make the monthly repayments, else you might be called a Yank :)

Rgds,

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thx Ling,</p>
<p>I may have a good deal done with a local Garage + Bank, will have confirmation tomorrow.</p>
<p>Leasing is much more tax efficient, even when allowing for the interest charged, but you must of course be able to make the monthly repayments, else you might be called a Yank <img src='http://www.tomdoyletalk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Rgds,</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Ling Valentine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ling Valentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

No. 

Basically it is because it is a different country. Finance companies in the UK won&#039;t lease to Eire. It is nothing personal, just that the European Union does not seem to extend to finance companies. Same applies if you are in France, Spain etc.

To be fair, the nightmare of car recovery if you defaulted or it went legal would be massive. There are registration and tax issues in Ireland and there would be a conflict of court jurisdictions etc.

I do quite some cars to the Northern Province of English Running Dogs, but even these are fraught with difficulty and UK car reg plates can cause some issues in certain areas of NI. 

I think high car prices are a drawback of Eire, it being a small and tightly controlled and heavily taxed market. However, you do have benefits I believe in the quality of life, beer and beautiful climate (and free fall out from Sellafield).

Ling</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>No. </p>
<p>Basically it is because it is a different country. Finance companies in the UK won&#8217;t lease to Eire. It is nothing personal, just that the European Union does not seem to extend to finance companies. Same applies if you are in France, Spain etc.</p>
<p>To be fair, the nightmare of car recovery if you defaulted or it went legal would be massive. There are registration and tax issues in Ireland and there would be a conflict of court jurisdictions etc.</p>
<p>I do quite some cars to the Northern Province of English Running Dogs, but even these are fraught with difficulty and UK car reg plates can cause some issues in certain areas of NI. </p>
<p>I think high car prices are a drawback of Eire, it being a small and tightly controlled and heavily taxed market. However, you do have benefits I believe in the quality of life, beer and beautiful climate (and free fall out from Sellafield).</p>
<p>Ling</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some practical questions then!

I am buying a new Peugeot 3008 SV, and the cost here with scrappage deal is approx 27,500 Euro, which might improve a bit after a few phone calls?

So, I am thinking about leasing this car for tax reasons, as I am self employed, and I do not care where I lease it from as long as I get the best deal, hell, I would even lease it from China if it was not so full of scammers, not directed at Ling of course :)

Question for anyone who might know.

Can I, living in Ireland, lease from UK and claim lease as tax expense, as is allowed with Irish lease. Remember, all I am interested in is the best deal and I do not care who gets my business once the best deal is available!

Thx,

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some practical questions then!</p>
<p>I am buying a new Peugeot 3008 SV, and the cost here with scrappage deal is approx 27,500 Euro, which might improve a bit after a few phone calls?</p>
<p>So, I am thinking about leasing this car for tax reasons, as I am self employed, and I do not care where I lease it from as long as I get the best deal, hell, I would even lease it from China if it was not so full of scammers, not directed at Ling of course <img src='http://www.tomdoyletalk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Question for anyone who might know.</p>
<p>Can I, living in Ireland, lease from UK and claim lease as tax expense, as is allowed with Irish lease. Remember, all I am interested in is the best deal and I do not care who gets my business once the best deal is available!</p>
<p>Thx,</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Ling Valentine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ling Valentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahahah, right, I will book time between 1am and 5am for 3 months, to sort this.

Remember we do stuff ourselves, live, giving remarkable results. Not using some expensive web company who will produce generic results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahahah, right, I will book time between 1am and 5am for 3 months, to sort this.</p>
<p>Remember we do stuff ourselves, live, giving remarkable results. Not using some expensive web company who will produce generic results.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely no excuse @Ling - needs sorting out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely no excuse @Ling &#8211; needs sorting out!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Doyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ivan - sounds like a plan! :)

@Ling - Absolutely no excuse, sounds like a cop out to me! :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ivan &#8211; sounds like a plan! <img src='http://www.tomdoyletalk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Ling &#8211; Absolutely no excuse, sounds like a cop out to me! <img src='http://www.tomdoyletalk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ivan O'Donoghue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivan O'Donoghue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tom - I understand where you are coming from, and agree with part of what you are saying. I strongly disagree with other parts. Ultimately, I don&#039;t think we&#039;ll agree on certain points, and I need to go make a website, so let&#039;s park it for now and discuss over a pint sometime :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tom &#8211; I understand where you are coming from, and agree with part of what you are saying. I strongly disagree with other parts. Ultimately, I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll agree on certain points, and I need to go make a website, so let&#8217;s park it for now and discuss over a pint sometime <img src='http://www.tomdoyletalk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ling Valentine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ling Valentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;She hasn’t tried improving things cosmetically and doesn’t appear open to it, so will never know the benefits of having a properly designed website in conjunction with her customer engagement.&quot;

Oh, I am open, but the site back-end database (300+ tables) is a monster. Every change has implications. Not to say disturbing the Google rankings etc. The site regularly causes the server to crash (it happened this morning, we don&#039;t know why, maybe a cron job coincidence or some locked table, I have much verbose logging but we just can&#039;t figure. The site often runs at or near 100% processor, mySQL, etc. It does so much. It is not *just* a website)

I am building a css based framework so I can modify the site much more easily.

There is a limit to what I can do and also continue to run my business. I do not have secondary income stream so am forced to take pragmatic decisions, not simply what I would like to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;She hasn’t tried improving things cosmetically and doesn’t appear open to it, so will never know the benefits of having a properly designed website in conjunction with her customer engagement.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, I am open, but the site back-end database (300+ tables) is a monster. Every change has implications. Not to say disturbing the Google rankings etc. The site regularly causes the server to crash (it happened this morning, we don&#8217;t know why, maybe a cron job coincidence or some locked table, I have much verbose logging but we just can&#8217;t figure. The site often runs at or near 100% processor, mySQL, etc. It does so much. It is not *just* a website)</p>
<p>I am building a css based framework so I can modify the site much more easily.</p>
<p>There is a limit to what I can do and also continue to run my business. I do not have secondary income stream so am forced to take pragmatic decisions, not simply what I would like to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Doyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ling - I don&#039;t agree at all. You don&#039;t have to go to &quot;boring side&quot; to increase conversions. Conversion is all about concise, clear, call to actions. That doesn&#039;t mean boring, corporate blandness.

Best example I can think of at the minute would be http://www.cullyandsully.com/ - not the same business of course, this is an example of how you can be different, but still engage with people.

Another good example of a brand that does it well too is the Innocent range. Nothing boring about them either. But it connects with people and has made them a success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ling &#8211; I don&#8217;t agree at all. You don&#8217;t have to go to &#8220;boring side&#8221; to increase conversions. Conversion is all about concise, clear, call to actions. That doesn&#8217;t mean boring, corporate blandness.</p>
<p>Best example I can think of at the minute would be <a href="http://www.cullyandsully.com/">http://www.cullyandsully.com/</a> &#8211; not the same business of course, this is an example of how you can be different, but still engage with people.</p>
<p>Another good example of a brand that does it well too is the Innocent range. Nothing boring about them either. But it connects with people and has made them a success.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Doyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ivan - With due respect, I can give you many examples of the worst websites making many sales. 

The reason Lings site is successful has nothing to do with the backend or CRM. She get&#039;s traffic and plenty of it.

Even the worst piece of marketing material will average a return of 2-3%.

I would actually say those figures are a &quot;happy accident&quot; - Ling has clearly found a way to engage with visitors to her website, as far as I can see - she realises it&#039;s the engagement that helps her win business, but she puts it down to the site.

She hasn&#039;t tried improving things cosmetically and doesn&#039;t appear open to it, so will never know the benefits of having a properly designed website in conjunction with her customer engagement.

As long as Ling continues on this path, she will continue to have an average conversion rate - a good website get&#039;s the best possible conversion rate for the TYPE of traffic it is receiving.

Bottom line is - if I put up a website even a one pager with no effort... With enough traffic I will make a sale. That&#039;s a fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ivan &#8211; With due respect, I can give you many examples of the worst websites making many sales. </p>
<p>The reason Lings site is successful has nothing to do with the backend or CRM. She get&#8217;s traffic and plenty of it.</p>
<p>Even the worst piece of marketing material will average a return of 2-3%.</p>
<p>I would actually say those figures are a &#8220;happy accident&#8221; &#8211; Ling has clearly found a way to engage with visitors to her website, as far as I can see &#8211; she realises it&#8217;s the engagement that helps her win business, but she puts it down to the site.</p>
<p>She hasn&#8217;t tried improving things cosmetically and doesn&#8217;t appear open to it, so will never know the benefits of having a properly designed website in conjunction with her customer engagement.</p>
<p>As long as Ling continues on this path, she will continue to have an average conversion rate &#8211; a good website get&#8217;s the best possible conversion rate for the TYPE of traffic it is receiving.</p>
<p>Bottom line is &#8211; if I put up a website even a one pager with no effort&#8230; With enough traffic I will make a sale. That&#8217;s a fact.</p>
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